How do I use BYOB 3?

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On Windows 10. (I would prefer online, but I could use it offline.)

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Offline is all there was. If you look at the bottom of the web site, there's a link to old BYOB files. No idea if it works in Win 10. Why would you want to use it, anyway? It's super slow and buggy.

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It works fine on Win 10 :slight_smile:

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What do you mean by "How do I use"?

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Can you send the link to BYOB

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https://snap.berkeley.edu

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Do I need Scratch 1.4? Or is it standalone on Win 10? (It doesn't seem like it's standalone on Unix, so I just wanted to make sure.)

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It's standalone on Windows.

Years ago, with Jen's help - I got it working on a Raspberry Pi
[edit Looking back at my emails from 2015 - it might have been Tim Rowledge (the person that worked on the Scratch 1.4 image for the Pi to speed it up) that helped me out - it was a long time ago :slight_smile: ]

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Ok.

It's working!

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What are the
[scratchblocks]
debug :: control
debug [] :: control reporter
[/scratchblocks]
blocks?

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I don't remember out of the top of my head - have a look thru the manual and see if they are mentioned

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I think it might be It is the predecessor of single-stepping. (BYOB manual, page 35)

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Reported value balloons are draggable?
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Yes. BYOB3 had a debugging interface that included single stepping and displaying intermediate values, looking a bit more like the usual IDE than what we have now does.

It's funny how accelerated the software timescale is; this all feels like ancient history to me, whereas, e.g., the Beatles and the Vietnam war still feel like yesterday.

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Yeah. I was grounded from May 27th (this year) to May 31st (inclusive), but later it felt like a few months. And, in June, I was grounded again (I get grounded a lot) and I couldn't use internet, but it doesn't feel that long ago.

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I know I shouldn't ask, but this sort of remark makes me terribly curious...

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I'm sometimes older than my mental age.

Separately, I'm playing around with BYOB.

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I don't know how to make a list watcher bigger. (A variable set to a list, not a [Make a list] list)

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I wonder if BYOB 2, BYOB 1, etc. are available.

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Not afaik, but those were before I joined the project. (It was originally just Jens!) I don't think those versions were ever really published; I had to email Jens to get my first copy of BYOB.

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i,[n I don't know what "edit elements" is.